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The Myth of the Middle Class Alpha Male
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The Myth of the Middle Class Alpha Male
Great reads:

The Myth of the Middle Class Alpha Male, Part 1

http://therawness.com/the-myth-of-the-mi...le-part-1/

The Myth of the Middle Class Alpha Male, Part 2

http://therawness.com/the-myth-of-the-mi...-part-2-2/

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02-17-2010 04:48 PM
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(02-17-2010 04:48 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Great reads:

The Myth of the Middle Class Alpha Male, Part 1

http://therawness.com/the-myth-of-the-mi...le-part-1/

The Myth of the Middle Class Alpha Male, Part 2

http://therawness.com/the-myth-of-the-mi...-part-2-2/

Hmm, interesting argument, ties into some arguments made in The Mating Mind.

I would say there are very few places where the whole pure Alpha thing is desirable, and, as you said, there are limits everywhere.
02-17-2010 07:20 PM
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RE: The Myth of the Middle Class Alpha Male
Interesting, its just fails in saying that rich guys have to be monogamous, it should perhaps be famous, but even thats isnt true...

The more rich and famous you are the more you also have to win by being polygamous
02-18-2010 09:44 AM
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RE: The Myth of the Middle Class Alpha Male
Thats a cool article,

Basically an "Alpha" in America is not the same as an "Alpha" in other parts of the world, or even in different neighborhoods. If "Mystery" came to my hood , THE GIRLS would probably take his money and clothes. Being a good entertainer and business man does not make you an "Alpha".

And the word "Alpha" is way over-used. In America real "Alphas" usually go to prison.
02-18-2010 03:38 PM
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Ha.

Yeah, if Neil Strauss was on my childhood playground, little girls would have choked him out with their jumpropes while playing double dutch.

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RE: The Myth of the Middle Class Alpha Male
I think the article is mediocre..

I agree its context related and the word is really overly used to the degree of nonsense hip word, that is doesnt even constitute a meaning anymore. Its obvious that the original meaning of the word in the animal kingdom refers to the packleader and since human society is way more context related only gods like Brad Pitt etc, would be able to pull of alpha status everywhere. Alpha isnt about being in prison, thats wrong in my book, that just being stupid.

Its a hype word more than its really usefull for anything... alpha, beta, gamma, delta and epsilon all depends on our contexts

its that kinda shit that hapends when you let happy, go lucky ignorant americans with alot of bullshit words and peacock bluff misuse words for personal gains. Evolution is also widely misunderstood and often seen in totally wrong context trying to validate BS humanistic crap teorries.

So get a pack of schoolkids and rule..be the alpha, shouldnt be too hard to get a few boosterboxes of pokemon cards and rule their world or even better get some dogs, your their alpha pretty easy.
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I rarely use alpha/beta on the blog anymore because I think it's more nuanced than the black/white I used to portray it as.

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I disagree with the guy who wrote this on some points, but it put words to a lot of observations I've been making going between the US and SA/Central America lately.

In other news, I re-posted it on Brad P's forum, he wasnt digging it.[/align]
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Quote:obvious that the original meaning of the word in the animal kingdom

The original usage comes from studying wolf packs. It turned out the "alpha" male and female were actually mom and dad. Wolf packs are usually just nuclear families with maybe an aunt or uncle or two.

The so-called alpha you get in some primate species is just the biggest and strongest male. And their reigns are brief. They get beaten down by an up and comer or an alliance of two in pretty short order. Not rarely, they get killed.

I think we can agree there is nothing usefully analogous to human male-female relations. The way the word is used is absurd.

Internet nerds tend to a marginalized outsider mentality, and I think this perspective causes them to hallucinate non-existent power structures and hierarchy all over the place. Hence the conspiracy theories (Illuminati, whatever), ideas like alpha-beta men, tendency to try and "win" pointless debates, etc.
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He had me with the first two, well written, and part of the conclusion, be in part three the guy just sounds like a fascist.

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(03-01-2010 04:13 AM)College Game Wrote:  He had me with the first two, well written, and part of the conclusion, be in part three the guy just sounds like a fascist.

Dead on man. Although a little verbose, Part 1 and 2 were among the best blog posts I have read in a while. Part 3 and beyond he went off the deep end. Maybe it went over my head but it sounded to to me more like incoherent rambling. I checked out his blog over the weekend, overall he's a decent blogger. However, I saw very little related to Game or bitches but then again he never claimed to be a PUA. He's more like your favorite Blogger's favorite Blogger.
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